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Coach meeting Jun Hu 1-4-2005

Present: JunHu, LilianAdmiraal, JanvanderAsdonk, RutgerMenges, LaurieScholten

* We talked about what we should do next after the interim.

* We need to send around the presentation to all the coaches and also update the wiki-page.

Jun Hu: What we discussed in the interim about combining the last three concepts. This will only be a minor part of the project.

Jan: About the interim, we would actually rather make one concept of the last three and than work out that concept in the rest of the project.

Jun Hu: The way of interaction in these concepts isn’t new. The way of presenting content is new there are just more screens and different angles.

Jan: We understand that but the concept is also about the experience.

* Remark about the floor idea: Make the entire living room as a theatre but make a part as a stage the rest is blurry.

We made some mistakes in the interim; we didn’t present the last three concepts differently. We realize now that the last three concepts are more like visions instead of concepts. And we should have presented them as visions.

* Living room consists out of the theatre and the living space.

We want to work out our ideas for one more week and than actually start with the modeling and prototype building.

Jun Hu: What is the basic idea behind all your ideas? * We think it is our vision.

What we need to do is to sit around the table and choose a concept. We also need a statement for our design to get some more focus we could use a slogan. We will try to create our new concept and describe it with a scenario with family. Because family and the social activity is still the central part of the living room. We also need to do a feasibility study. And when we have more concrete ideas we need to send them around.

Jun Hu: I prefer the cards concept. * We think this is too easy/ too simple concept.

Jun Hu: Think about real objects instead of cards. Jan: How can we get to a concrete concept with so many objects? Jun Hu: Pattern regonition. Jan: But then what meaning to we attach to which object. Jun Hu: That is just a design problem. Jan: We think that is just not fixable, with cards this is easy.

Jun Hu: You shouldn’t have real screens on the floor but you could place screens near the walls. Are there any more screens in the floor concept? * No there aren’t but we don’t limit us to that these concepts aren’t really fixed so this isn’t really the question.

We think we had a wrong idea of the interim and we should have a good concept with a good scenario by the next coach meeting.

Coach meeting both coaches 24-3-2005

Present: SietskeKlooster, JunHu, LilianAdmiraal, JanvanderAsdonk, RutgerMenges, LaurieScholten

What have we done last week:

We wanted to work out our basic concepts to real clear concepts that we can present during the interim presentation.
We did some concept ‘bitching’. We would say all the bad things about a concept and try to change these.
Two concepts are fairly finished, one concepts still has to be worked out further.

Concept 1: We told about our ‘Light concept’; you can interact with the movie by adjusting the light in your environment and the movie will react on these adjustments. Also the movie can adjust the lights in the living room according to the plot of the movie.

Jun: States that interactive movie doesn’t work due to the remote control and we have to seek for evidence for this concept.
Sietske: States that we could make the action to adjust the movie more direct. So far you, as a user, have to take a lot of steps form movie to environment to adjust the movie.
Jun: It looks like the user is directly controlling the room lights and thus not seeing the link between media and environment. Also the positioning of the lights and the other things in the environment is very important.
Sietske: does not understand the basics and Rutger explains these. It might be hard to see this link between the parts.
Jun: Philips is moving on. They are not good at concepts, only at lightening. Maybe we should think of other lamps or candles. Not doing things, or wanting to interact with a movie via control units. And if ON/OFF doesn’t work, you should find out why.

Concept 2: Concept 2 is about the room with a 360 view of blurred shadows. If you would pay attention at one point for a long time you could see further and in this way you can change the plot of the movie.

Jun: Wonders if it would be new because it looks a lot as the existing 360 view movies.
Sietske: Knows this movie (something that looks like our concept) and its connection between special timelines. It is important to see if it is doable if you want to see a movie with multiple people. It will affects the social event.
Jun: Thinks there will be a danger because a living room is not a cinema. And with a 360 view you almost need the whole space and there will be no place for for example your furniture.
Sietske: The TV is still a part of the living room.
Jun: We are actually designing the living room, where should we put the furniture.
Sietske: There should be a link between the social aspect and the movie watching.

Concept 3: The movie is shown on the flour of your living room. With your hands and feet you can interact with the movie and adjust it in the way you want.

Jun: Philips has patterns and no colours. But using the floor as a medium was a good idea.
Jun: Wants to see a ‘mapping’, why is this more futuristic?!
Sietske: The designers are the advisors, we should be experts of our work. From the start till the end.
Jun: Concept 1 should be more worked out and concept 2 and 3 should be clearer.
Sietske: If we could compare the ideas, there should be some equal basis.
Rutger: We have to link our concepts to our scheme.
Jun: One big difference we have to take into account: the involvement of the living room.
Sietske: We have the pieces but not yet the puzzle.
Jun: We should work around the concepts and not use some of them.
Sietske: We have some strong pieces of the puzzle.
Jun: We have to find the strong points, dimensions, costs, perspective.

We discussed our mapping session, and our planning for the next week. During the interim-presentation we want the concepts worked our, 1 style of drawings and 1 style of lay-out.

Sietske: We should use a clear communication; it helps exploring and the presentation would be more clear.

Anchor(philipross)

Expert meeting with Philip Ross 18-03-2005

Present: Philip Ross, LilianAdmiraal, JanvanderAsdonk, RutgerMenges, LaurieScholten

Coach meeting both coaches 18-3-2005

Present: SietskeKlooster, JunHu, LilianAdmiraal, JanvanderAsdonk, RutgerMenges, LaurieScholten

Discussion on the work we did

We linked the research points together via a schematic, which was later made digitally. The conclusion we drew from here is that activity, experience and the environmental change were the most important key elements to focuss on. The relations from the most important elements were noted and we wrote down all the conclusions from this. we discussed the scenarios we created with some of the concepts and showed all the input and output paterns we concluded to.
Jun noted that the technique for one of our concepts, the Visor2000, already exists in some way, with a pair of goggles and small screen attached to it.
Sietske noted that there was a project called Third Eye which worked as a VR-goggle, whch had some similar technique.
Rutger explained all the earlier concepts we generated when not working from a completely finisched research stand point.
- intuitive ideas are no coincidence. They are often very valuable. But only if you are able to understand what the value is, how and why it arose, how it relates to your research, what the abstract basis it has. Combine intuition and research in creating. -- SietskeKlooster
Sietske noted that it will be important to have a clear link between the (earlier) concepts and the research to show the various thinking methods.
- work on clear related and motivated tracks. It helps both the creative process and convincing communication of your work. -- SietskeKlooster
Jun noted that we should think of more other modalities but Rutger justified this by stating that we choose those modalities due to our opinions and the feasibility of these modalities, and some of them are already being considered. Jan talks about this new company being able to create 3D images in the air, but the precise details are unkown.
- What I meant was that you should not be limited my the interactive moives as they were at the moment - they all used visual and auditory materials, even the latest AmbiLights. 3D images in the air - still something visual. -- JunHu DateTime(2005-03-22T14:50:02Z)

Comments on the scenarios and concepts

Jun states that it is good to use the whole environment and not focus on single aspects. Getting different people to have different views is a good thing, it influences experience and perspective. The Visor2000 does not look very feasible but Jan states that there is a phone company that uses the same technique only more basic and not interactive. Rutger notes that on ICEC there was this camera which recorder the position of your hand which would, in turn, unfluence a video.
- Good you already dive into the possibilities to realise your concepts. But before really diving into this, have your concepts very clear on an abstract level, with clear startingpoints. -- SietskeKlooster
Sietske noted that it is good to have all the directions coming from one point, keep using the space and nice to see how you think on influencing the storyline. Starting with a tv as the start point results in different ideas. What happens if you drop this thought, and focus on a empty space not based on the media center? Try to stream the concepts in 2 directions: near future and far future. We noted that this is also the way we wish to present the concepts to the client. One of the important things here is that we need to show clearly how the conecpts were generated and where they were based on.
- these 2 directions seem to be parallel with a choice of
  1. concepts with one screen (Like tv) and nowadays interior as a central element (near future) and
  2. concepts that let go of this and can lead to totally new use of home space, influencing possibly the interior (far furure).
  Think of what timescale you think of. Also this could be an interesting issue for competency 5, to involve in concept development. -- SietskeKlooster
Jun stated that the lighting part is good, and that we need to broaden it because no one uses the light as an interaction method. And weraing goggles or special clothing will not be the future so he preferres to not see one of these solutions. It would be interesting to have something were all walls will be screens, this will be the future, bigger screens all around you.
Sietske reacts to this by stating that the walls are interesting because they give other directions and perspectives.
Jun says that it would also be intersting to have more split screens and show the interaction, Jan notes that it is something we did not think of; having multiple screens interact with eachother, and that they will not only be unfluenced by the users.
- Try to not stick to and see your concepts literally as they are now. See the conceptual directions they fit in and what their joint abstract basis is. This will help deepening and broadening your concept development. -- SietskeKlooster
  - Agree. Sometime during the coach meetings some new ideas pop up - these ideas are often very concrete and down to the ground. Do not take these ideas literally and try to see whether these ideas point towards a new direction or a new aspect. -- JunHu DateTime(2005-03-22T14:56:17Z)

Action points

Next week we will be deepening our concepts and take care of the starting points and the directions.
- take care of balanced, equal development and presentation of different concept directions and concepts. This is to make them comparable. -- SietskeKlooster
Jun states that there should be clear links between the concepts and the research.
On thursday the concepts will be finished and we will work on the presentation format.

add note sietske: also start creating. Make, represent, move, film your works, make it 3-dimensional, take your works out of the heads into the world, let us experience your process. Be creative, so think of and create a presentation that fits the character of this project.

Jun says it could be good to put a light here and "play" with it to get some first-hand experience.
- look at the project of DC219; meeting duet. They worked with light as an activating, spatial and social means, arising an event. -- SietskeKlooster

Coach meeting Sietske Klooster 7-3-2005

Present: SietskeKlooster, LaurieScholten, RutgerMenges, JanvanderAsdonk, LilianAdmiraal

Feedback meeting 11-3-2005 by Sietske Klooster

Advice point of our meeting is to make a framework in which you relate the different research input and with that build concept directions. Being able to see relations, to make relations out of different research topics, actually is a creative process. It opens ways to conceptual thinking, to conceptual directions. Make sure your different concept directions come from a clear research-framework starting point and that they can be compared with eachother on this basis.

An example, derived out of the moved research workshop we did. To give you an idea of what I mean with relating research findings into a conceptual starting point. You could derive this list of dimensions out of our moved research. -space -audience -social relations -senses -emotions -theme/story -involvement -possibilities to choose

They all relate into a principle for mov’in experience:

Audience is surrounded with space. Space can be used for the audience involvement. The audience members have sensorial directions. They have to choose direction in space in order to sense: You can hear and feel all around you, but watching has a clear bodily direction. To see what you hear behind you, you have to turn. This means a possibility to play with involvement through choosing direction.

The audience will feel emotional reactions to what they sense. They can choose spatial position in relation to what they emotionally feel with their sensations; this way they can relate to what happens in the story. They can also literally choose what to follow in the story that surrounds them. Choose with direction of viewing. They can literally choose a perspective/viewpoint on what they see. Close by when curious, at a distance when wanting to know, but not being part. A space is around, so choices for what to follow and/or from what point of view to follow, based on how you feel related to it.

An audience exists of more people. They are dependant on each other in choosing, because they are together in this one mov’in space of story. Here social interaction is of importance in the groups choosing involvement. Their spatial emotional, sensorial choices are of importance. Go through the story as a group, chosing differently as individuals, etc.

This is an example principle of what could be a starting point to develop different concepts from and for. Concepts of actively being involved in a story to experience it. Techniques, projections, sensoring certain activity, personal devices etc. can be used and designed to play with such an active principle, to awaken it, to enhance it, manipulate it etc.

Anchor(cm0403)

Coach meeting Jun Hu 4-3-2005

Present: JunHu, LaurieScholten, RutgerMenges, LilianAdmiraal, JanvanderAsdonk
Issues discussed
Action points

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